Sept. 28, 2023
I have been working at my current company for half a year now. When I started, I was always excited, and couldn't wait to begin the day and work with new technologies. However, after six months my initial excitement has waned.
I am a Junior Software Engineer, but sometimes it feels like people who have been working there almost for a decade have the knowledge and experience of a beginner. And even if I explain to them exactly what to do they still don't seem to grasp it. Weeks, hell, even months pass by, and they continue to ask the same questions with exactly the same issue repeatedly. When I tell them they say that they understand it, but I already know that they don't, it just happened so many times.
One of the most important aspects of my profession is to be experimental and play around a lot (If you f** around, you'll find out). But they just want to know the answer, without any willingness to explore. AND They are supposed to be Senior Engineers. I really don't feel entitled to tell them what to do as a Junior Engineer, and it feels odd to have to explain things to them as if they were beginners.
I really don't know what is happening on their side, I have experienced that when I couldn't do anything, and received no help, and it was a really painful experience, so I don't want to be that person who doesn't give them the help, but I was an entry-level developer at that time, earning a minimal salary, not a senior engineer at a multinational company.
I have created documentation, and example code, told them countless of times, and still no improvement. I waste so much time just to debug their code, create these documentation that they are not going to read, and so on.
I'm struggling to comprehend the dynamics here.
Have you ever encountered a similar situation, and if so, how did you go about improving or managing it?
The Workplace Honeymoon is over
I have been working at my current company for half a yearsix months now.
When I started, I was always excited, and couldn't wait to begin the day and working with new technologies.
However, after six months my initial excitement has waned.
I am a Junior Software Engineer, but sometimes it feels like the people who have been working there almost for a decade only have the knowledge and experience of a beginner.
And even if I explain to them exactly what to do, they still don't seem to grasp it.
Weeks, hell, even months pass by, and they repeatedly continue to ask the same questions with exactly the same issue repeatedly.
When I tell them, they say that they understand it, but I already know that they don't, it justhas happened so many times.
One of the most important aspects of my profession is to be experimental and play around a lotexplore new methods (If you f** around, you'll find out).
But they just want to know the answer, without any willingness to explore.
AND Theynd THEY are supposed to be the Senior Engineers.
As a Junior Engineer, I really don't feel entitlobliged to tell them what to do as a Junior Engineer, and it feels odd to have to explain things to them as if they were beginners.
I really don't know what is happening on their side,. I have experienced that when I couldn't do anything, and received no help, and iknow what it’s like to not receive any help when you don’t know what to do. It was a really painful experience, so I don't want to be that person who doesn't give them the help, but I was an entry-level developer at that time, earning a minimal salary, not a senior engineer at a multinational company.
I have created documentation, and examples of code, told them countless of times, and but still no improvement.
I waste so much time just to debug their code, and create these documentations that they are not going to read, and so on.
I'm struggling to comprehend the dynamics here.
Have you ever encountered a similar situation, and if so, how did you go about improving or managing it?
My Workplace Honeymoon is oOver
I have been working at my current company for half a yearsix months now.
"Half a year" is correct, but most American native speakers will instinctively say "six months" before they say "half a year."
When I started, I was always excited, and. I couldn't wait to begin the day and work withgo to work and explore new technologies.
However, aAfter six months, my initial excitement has waned.
You can say "however" here, but "however" and "after six months" are both antecedents, and it sounds slightly awkward to have multiple antecedents.
I am a Junior Software Engineer, but sometimes it feels like people who have been working there almost for a decade have the knowledge and the experience of a beginner.
And eEven if I explain to them exactly what to do, they still don't seem to grasp it.
Whenever I write "even if," I always end the clause with a comma.
Weeks, —hell, even months —pass by, and they continue to ask the same questions with exactly the same issues repeatedly.
For clauses where you interrupt yourself, you want to use commas or em dashes.
When I tell themanswer their questions, they say that they understand it, but I already know that they don't, it. It’s just happened so many times.
"It's" can be an informal contraction for "it has." You could say "it has" instead, but I use this contraction when I speak!
One of the most important aspects of my profession is to be experimental and play around a lot (If you f** around, you'll find out).
The phrase, "Fuck around and find out," is usually used as a threat or as a warning of bad consequences. For example, the speaker often means that if you are rude to them, they'll attack you. Or if you do something stupid, you'll face professional or personal ramifications. I wouldn't use that phrase for learning by playing and experimentation, which is indeed important for learning any skill!
AND TheyYet these are supposed to be the Senior Engineers.!
You wouldn't capitalize "they" unless it starts the sentence. I also modified the sentence to sound more appropriately angry!
I really don't feel entitled to tell them what to do as a Junior Engineer, and i. It feels odweird to have to explain things to them as if they were beginners.
"Odd" works, but I would use "weird" or "strange" instead. This might vary by region, but in my area and dialect, that sounds slightly more natural.
I really don't know what is happening on their side,. I have had experienced thats whenre I couldn't do anything, and received no help, and i. It was a really painful experience, so. I don't want to be that person who doesn't give them the help, but when I went through this, I was an entry-level developer at that time, earning a minimal salary, not a senior engineer at a multinational company.
I have created documentation, and example code, toldwhich I've shown them countless of times, and s. Still no improvement.
"Countless" is more like an adjective than a noun, so "countless times" is grammatically correct. "Still no improvement" is technically a sentence fragment, but that's how English speakers talk when we're exasperated!
I waste so much time just to debugging their code, create theseing documentation that they are not going to'll never read, and so on.
"These documentation" sounds strange in American English.
Have you ever encountered a similar situation, and i? If so, how did you go about improving or managing it?
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This is great work too! With one exception, your writing sounds almost indistinguishable from a native speaker.
This happens to me a lot at my job too. I try to explain what functions or operators do rather than just tell them how to use the code. For example, here's some Python code I made for a class that splits PDFs into two files:
𝚒𝚖𝚙𝚘𝚛𝚝 𝚙𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚕𝚒𝚋
𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝙿𝚢𝙿𝙳𝙵𝟸 𝚒𝚖𝚙𝚘𝚛𝚝 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚆𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛, 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚁𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚛
𝚌𝚕𝚊𝚜𝚜 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝙵𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚂𝚙𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛:
𝚍𝚎𝚏 __𝚒𝚗𝚒𝚝__(𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏, 𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎):
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎 = 𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚒𝚗𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚙𝚍𝚏 = 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚁𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚛(𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎)
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟷 = 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚆𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛()
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟸 = 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚆𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛()
𝚍𝚎𝚏 𝚜𝚙𝚕𝚒𝚝(𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏, 𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚔_𝚙𝚘𝚒𝚗𝚝):
𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚒𝚗 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚒𝚗𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚙𝚍𝚏.𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎𝚜[:𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚔_𝚙𝚘𝚒𝚗𝚝]:
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟷.𝚊𝚍𝚍_𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎(𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎)
𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚒𝚗 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚒𝚗𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚙𝚍𝚏.𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎𝚜[𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚔_𝚙𝚘𝚒𝚗𝚝:]:
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟸.𝚊𝚍𝚍_𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎(𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎)
𝚍𝚎𝚏 𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎(𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏, 𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎):
𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚙𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚕𝚒𝚋.𝙿𝚊𝚝𝚑(𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎 + "_𝟷.𝚙𝚍𝚏").𝚘𝚙𝚎𝚗(𝚖𝚘𝚍𝚎="𝚠𝚋") 𝚊𝚜 𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎:
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟷.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎(𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎)
𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚙𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚕𝚒𝚋.𝙿𝚊𝚝𝚑(𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎 + "_𝟸.𝚙𝚍𝚏").𝚘𝚙𝚎𝚗(𝚖𝚘𝚍𝚎="𝚠𝚋") 𝚊𝚜 𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎:
𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚏.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝟸.𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎(𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚙𝚞𝚝_𝚏𝚒𝚕𝚎)
Rather than give someone the code, I would explain what the 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚁𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚛(), 𝙿𝚍𝚏𝚆𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛(), .𝚊𝚍𝚍_𝚙𝚊𝚐𝚎(), and .𝚠𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚎() functions do. That way, if they have questions, they might be embarrassed to ask because it would reveal that they don't have the problem-solving skills to be good programmers!
Workplace Honeymoon is over My Workplace Honeymoon is The Workplace Honeymoon is over |
I have been working at my current company for half a year now. I have been working at my current company for "Half a year" is correct, but most American native speakers will instinctively say "six months" before they say "half a year." I have been working at my current company for |
When I started, I was always excited, and couldn't wait to begin the day and work with new technologies. When I started, I was always excited When I started, I was always excited |
However, after six months my initial excitement has waned.
You can say "however" here, but "however" and "after six months" are both antecedents, and it sounds slightly awkward to have multiple antecedents. This sentence has been marked as perfect! |
I am a Junior Software Engineer, but sometimes it feels like people who have been working there almost for a decade have the knowledge and experience of a beginner. I am a Junior Software Engineer, but sometimes it feels like people who have been working there almost for a decade have the knowledge and the experience of a beginner. I am a Junior Software Engineer |
And even if I explain to them exactly what to do they still don't seem to grasp it.
Whenever I write "even if," I always end the clause with a comma. And even if I explain to them exactly what to do, they still don't seem to grasp it. |
Weeks, hell, even months pass by, and they continue to ask the same questions with exactly the same issue repeatedly. Weeks For clauses where you interrupt yourself, you want to use commas or em dashes. Weeks, hell, even months pass by, and they repeatedly continue to ask the same questions with exactly the same issue |
When I tell them they say that they understand it, but I already know that they don't, it just happened so many times. When I "It's" can be an informal contraction for "it has." You could say "it has" instead, but I use this contraction when I speak! When I tell them, they say that they understand it |
One of the most important aspects of my profession is to be experimental and play around a lot (If you f** around, you'll find out). One of the most important aspects of my profession is to The phrase, "Fuck around and find out," is usually used as a threat or as a warning of bad consequences. For example, the speaker often means that if you are rude to them, they'll attack you. Or if you do something stupid, you'll face professional or personal ramifications. I wouldn't use that phrase for learning by playing and experimentation, which is indeed important for learning any skill! One of the most important aspects of my profession is to be experimental and |
But they just want to know the answer, without any willingness to explore. This sentence has been marked as perfect! |
AND They are supposed to be Senior Engineers.
You wouldn't capitalize "they" unless it starts the sentence. I also modified the sentence to sound more appropriately angry! A |
I really don't feel entitled to tell them what to do as a Junior Engineer, and it feels odd to have to explain things to them as if they were beginners. I really don't feel entitled to tell them what to do as a Junior Engineer "Odd" works, but I would use "weird" or "strange" instead. This might vary by region, but in my area and dialect, that sounds slightly more natural. As a Junior Engineer, I really don't feel |
I really don't know what is happening on their side, I have experienced that when I couldn't do anything, and received no help, and it was a really painful experience, so I don't want to be that person who doesn't give them the help, but I was an entry-level developer at that time, earning a minimal salary, not a senior engineer at a multinational company. I really don't know what is happening on their side I really don't know what is happening on their side |
I have created documentation, and example code, told them countless of times, and still no improvement. I have created documentation "Countless" is more like an adjective than a noun, so "countless times" is grammatically correct. "Still no improvement" is technically a sentence fragment, but that's how English speakers talk when we're exasperated! I have created documentation |
I waste so much time just to debug their code, create these documentation that they are not going to read, and so on. I waste so much time "These documentation" sounds strange in American English. I waste so much time just to debug their code |
I'm struggling to comprehend the dynamics here. This sentence has been marked as perfect! |
Have you ever encountered a similar situation, and if so, how did you go about improving or managing it? Have you ever encountered a similar situation Have you ever encountered a similar situation |
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