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March 3, 2025

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Vasaris ir pavasaris

Dabar mokausi mėnesių vardus lietuviškai. Šie vardai nėra kilę iš Grigaliaus kalendoriaus lotynų vardų: jie vietoj to ikvėpię gamta, todėl man primeni Prancūzijos revoliucionius kalendorių. Gimtau spalio mėnesį. Dabar tai yra vasario mėnuo. Manau, kad žodis kilę iš "pavasario". Šiandien yra graži giedra ir saulė šviečia. Iš tiesų, galima tikėti, kad pavasaris jau ateino.


I'm currently learning the names of the months in Lithuanian. They don't originate from the Latin names of the Gregorian calendar, but were instead inspired by Nature, so they kinda remind me of the French revolutionary calendar. I was born in October. Now it's February. I suppose the word stems from "pavasaris", "spring". Today we have clear skies and the sun is shining, so it's definitely possible to believe that spring has already come.

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Vasaris ir pavasaris

Dabar mokausi mėnesių vardus lietuviškai.

Šie vardai nėra kilę iš Grigaliaus kalendoriaus lotyniškų vardų: jie vietoj to i, o buvo įkvėptię gamtaos, todėl man primenia Prancūzijos revoliucioniusarinį kalendorių.

Minor fixes in endings. While "Instead" can be "vietoj to" in Lithuanian, it's specifically used in structures, where you can say "Instead of X, Y". "Vietoj obuolio suvalgiau apelsiną." (Instead of an apple, I ate an orange). The clause connector "o" is more suitable here.

Gimtiau spalio mėnesį.

Dabar tai yra vasario mėnuo.

"Tai" makes it sound like you mentioned some sort of object in the previous sentence, and now you are saying that that aforementioned object is the month of February.

"Dabar" is already the subject of the sentence, the one that "is February".

I believe the grammatical term for the "it" in the original English sentence is "dummy it". We don't have dummy its in Lithuanian. "Tai" has to refer to something.

Manau, kad žodisjo pavadinimas (yra) kilęs (žodžio) "pavasarios".

"žodis" is a bit vague, replacing it with "jo pavadinimas" makes it more clear what you are talking about and connects the sentences better.
Kilę is for plural, kilęs is for male singular.

Šiandien yra gražiu, giedra ir, saulė šviečia.

Don't know the grammatical term for it, but since there's no specific thing that is beautiful or clear, we use the very rare "neutral/genderless" adjective form. In English, it would probably have the dummy it I mentioned :D Like "It's beautiful outside" would be "Lauke yra gražu" <-- what is beautiful is not specified, it just is.

Using "ir" sounds here a bit jarring, kind of like saying "also" in "Today is beautiful, the sky is clear, also the sun is shining". So I would just stick to commas, like a list of related descriptions that don't follow the same grammar structure.

Iš tiesų, galima patikėti, kad pavasaris jau ateinėjo.

tikėti is to believe in general
patikėti is to believe once

It's again a bit difficult to explain as I do not know the official term for it, but you should notice this pattern with a lot of Lithuanian verbs, were without "pa-", they tend to have a more general/grander meaning. "pa-" usually narrows it down (https://lt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pa-)

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Vasaris does not have an officially known explanation for its name, but many speculate it comes from the word Vasara! Supposedly in February, as the days get longer, you start thinking about summer :D
To be fair, Pavasaris also comes from the word Vasara, where the pa- implies that it is close to summer.

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Monsieur_Elephant

March 4, 2025

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> Šiandien yra gražu, giedra, saulė šviečia.
In fact I wanted to make "graži" complete "giedra" (so I picked the feminine form), like "today, there is a beautiful blue sky" not "today is beautiful". Would it be possible? I forgot the "beautiful" in my English text so it wasn't very clear, sorry^^

> I believe the grammatical term for the "it" in the original English sentence is "dummy it"
Yes exactly, it's called a "dummy pronoun", or "expletive pronoun", if you really want the fancy grammatical term ;-)

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March 4, 2025

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Labai ačiū už pagalbą!

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March 5, 2025

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I think my struggle is that it still sounds a bit weird in Lithuanian, it's not really the way we would express such thoughts :') The day can be both beautiful and clear, and the sun can be shining too, it's just not something we would cram in one sentence.
Separately, sure:"Šiandien dangus gražus, giedras." (Today the sky is beautiful, clear). Then "Saulė šviečia" separately.

Best I could come up with that featured all of that and still sounded natural is "Šiandien yra graži diena -- dangus giedras, saulė šviečia." Today is a beautiful day -- the sky is clear, the sun is shining".

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Monsieur_Elephant

March 5, 2025

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Thanks again! I always appreciate corrections to make a sentence more natural!

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Dabar mokausi mėnesių vardus lietuviškai.


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Gimtau spalio mėnesį.


Gimtiau spalio mėnesį.

Dabar tai yra vasario mėnuo.


Dabar tai yra vasario mėnuo.

"Tai" makes it sound like you mentioned some sort of object in the previous sentence, and now you are saying that that aforementioned object is the month of February. "Dabar" is already the subject of the sentence, the one that "is February". I believe the grammatical term for the "it" in the original English sentence is "dummy it". We don't have dummy its in Lithuanian. "Tai" has to refer to something.

Manau, kad žodis kilę iš "pavasario".


Manau, kad žodisjo pavadinimas (yra) kilęs (žodžio) "pavasarios".

"žodis" is a bit vague, replacing it with "jo pavadinimas" makes it more clear what you are talking about and connects the sentences better. Kilę is for plural, kilęs is for male singular.

Šiandien yra graži giedra ir saulė šviečia.


Šiandien yra gražiu, giedra ir, saulė šviečia.

Don't know the grammatical term for it, but since there's no specific thing that is beautiful or clear, we use the very rare "neutral/genderless" adjective form. In English, it would probably have the dummy it I mentioned :D Like "It's beautiful outside" would be "Lauke yra gražu" <-- what is beautiful is not specified, it just is. Using "ir" sounds here a bit jarring, kind of like saying "also" in "Today is beautiful, the sky is clear, also the sun is shining". So I would just stick to commas, like a list of related descriptions that don't follow the same grammar structure.

Iš tiesų, galima tikėti, kad pavasaris jau ateino.


Iš tiesų, galima patikėti, kad pavasaris jau ateinėjo.

tikėti is to believe in general patikėti is to believe once It's again a bit difficult to explain as I do not know the official term for it, but you should notice this pattern with a lot of Lithuanian verbs, were without "pa-", they tend to have a more general/grander meaning. "pa-" usually narrows it down (https://lt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pa-)

Šie vardai nėra kilę iš Grigaliaus kalendoriaus lotynų vardų: jie vietoj to ikvėpię gamta, todėl man primeni Prancūzijos revoliucionius kalendorių.


Šie vardai nėra kilę iš Grigaliaus kalendoriaus lotyniškų vardų: jie vietoj to i, o buvo įkvėptię gamtaos, todėl man primenia Prancūzijos revoliucioniusarinį kalendorių.

Minor fixes in endings. While "Instead" can be "vietoj to" in Lithuanian, it's specifically used in structures, where you can say "Instead of X, Y". "Vietoj obuolio suvalgiau apelsiną." (Instead of an apple, I ate an orange). The clause connector "o" is more suitable here.

Šie vardai nėra kilę iš Grigaliaus kalendoriaus lodynų vardų: jie vietoj to ikvėpię gamta, todėl man primeni Prancūzijos revoliucionius kalendorių.


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