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Kristian_Meloysund

Nov. 29, 2021

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Charlie Hebdo partie é

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Mais, est-ce que la manifestation a amélioré le problème ? Non, je ne pense pas que c’est le cas. Il y a beaucoup de musulmans qui sont de fervents croyant dans le monde, alors si on les provoque quelqu’un pourra se mettre en colère. L’acte de Charlie Hebdo est un acte blasphématoire contre l’islam. Beaucoup de musulmans trouve que les rédacteurs des caricatures ont fait quelque chose d’horrible. En fait il y a eu une manifestation au Niger contre Charlie hebdo. Quand quelques choses est si important pour quelqu’un, on doit le respecter, on ne peut pas le de respecter malgré le fait que la liberté d’expression existe. Donc, pour être capable de respecter les autres cultures il faut qu’on en sache plus sur elles. Je pense que le problème est le manque de connaissances sur ce sujet. Les Français devraient en apprendre plus en école selon moi, parce qu’alors peut-être que la tragédie n’aurait jamais eu lieu.

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Pourriez-vous corriger en français ?

Mais, est-ce que la manifestation a amélioré le problème ?

Non, je ne pense pas que c’estça ait été le cas.

Opinion verbs in the negative form require the subjunctive mood

Il y a beaucoup de musulmans qui sont de fervents croyants dans le monde, alors si on les provoque quelqu’un, certains pourraient se mettre en colère.

L’acte dCe que Charlie Hebdo esa fait était un acte blasphématoire contre l’islam.

Beaucoup de musulmans trouvent que les rédacdessinateurs des caricatures ont fait quelque chose d’horrible.

En fait, il y a eu une manifestation au Niger contre Charlie hHebdo.

Quand quelques choses est si important pour quelqu’un, on doit le respecter, on ne peut pas le déviter de le respecter, malgré le fait que la liberté d’expression existe.

Donc, pour être capable de respecter les autres cultures il faut qu’on en sache plus sur elles.

Je pense que le problème est le manque de connaissances sur ce sujet.

Les Français devraient en apprendre plus en à l'école selon moi, parce qu’alors peut-être que la tragédie n’aurait peut-être jamais eu lieu.

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So the problem is neither mosques supporting religious fundamentalism or lunatics slaughtering people, it's freedom of expression... That's uh, an interesting perspective.

Yes, very definition of freedom of speech is being able to criticize and laugh about any topic. I didn't especially approve Charlie Hebdo's humor, but if you practice self-censorship everytime you're afraid some loonies might get offended, you're giving terrorists and fundamentalists what they want. It means you don't live in a democracy anymore, but in a dictatorship founded on cowardice and also hypocrisy, because not being able to express ideas doesn't mean people won't have them. That might be your politically correct cup of tea up there in Scandinavia, but it's not ours

To think there are so many Muslims fleeing religious fundamentalism who will be told not to hurt salafists here in Europe, by your kind... Can't decide if it's more disgusting than sad, but supporting religious fundamentalism (and implying terrorists actually represent Muslims or islam, dear God) is definitely something that makes me wanna puke

P.S: a lot of ancient Muslim paintings and books actually represent Prophet Muhammad, so maybe you should educate your salafi/wahhabi friends about this, instead of wanting to educate the French people

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Monsieur_Elephant

Nov. 29, 2021

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*the very definition *can't decide if it's more disgusting than sad or the other way around

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Kristian_Meloysund

Nov. 30, 2021

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I don't know if you understood what I meant, I don't support what the terrorist organizations does at all and think they did this just to spread fear. And what Charlie Hebdo did is not worse than what the terrorists did, but it was an act could have been prevented. The freedom of speech is important and there shouldn’t be any consequences for saying what you mean. However, this is not the case in the real world, if you offend someone else, they will probably get angry. If you are a company like Charlie Hebdo and are offending Islam in the way they did, there would be consequences. For example, the demonstration in Niger and the assassination. I just meant that Charlie Hebdo should have known that this was a bad idea and that there was no point in doing it. Of course, not all of the French people are like this, but there are some, like in every country. However, I think that education in religion is important to understand other cultures and also to be able to respect them. So I thought that maybe if there was education in religion in France maybe Charlie Hebdo had never done it. I didn’t mean to criticize the French, but I think education in religion could prevent someone from having blasphemous thoughts. But from what I know the demonstration didn’t make it better. That’s just a hypothesis I had, which is not necessarily correct. I’m sorry if I offended you, I wrote this text in a hurry and didn’t have time or the ability to explain this in French. I really like that you expressed your opinion on this topic. I hope that you understood what I meant and thank you for the correction (Sorry for my bad English, I wrote this in a hurry.)

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Monsieur_Elephant

Dec. 3, 2021

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We're taught about religion (we have schools and all, you know?) but we're also taught we live in a secular Republic, and the right to blasphemy is constitutional in France as it is in numerous other countries, including yours BTW... Preventing "blasphemous thoughts" and thinking violence is justified in the name of "blasphemy" belong to theocracies — very nice regimes, give them a try if you want, but you might find them a little bit less tolerant and democratic as ours...

And I got you right, that was my point: if you self-censor because you're afraid of retaliation, you have no actual freedom, you're just deluding yourself, and those who wanna shut you up win.

The fact is, regular people can put up with humor and satire, be they Christians, Muslims, atheists, whatever. Civilized people will find civilized means to express their opinions, including disagreement. Who think it's OK to go on a killing spree for some fucking drawings? Sociopaths, that is. In the name of what looks like a totally twisted understanding of "respecting others' cultures", you're basically advocating the right for extremist sociopaths to roam free. But I don't want freedom of speech to suffer for these people, and I don't want to be afraid of them. Again, to each his own...

ISIS and some other fundamentalist groups (which again don't represent all Muslims in any way) are at war with us. To them, you're nothing more than an unbelieving dog. Your fate is either conversion, or death. These are the people you wish to "respect". So be very careful what you wish for...

"sorry if I offended you" I'm not offended, the kind of mentality you're displaying arouses nothing in me but utter disdain, and since this is only what I think it's worthy of, this is quite fitting

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Monsieur_Elephant

Dec. 3, 2021

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As I see no point in repeating myself or having any further debate about the matter, those will be my final words

Charlie Hebdo partie é


Pourriez-vous corriger en français ?


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Mais, est-ce que la manifestation a amélioré le problème ?


Mais, est-ce que la manifestation a amélioré le problème ?

Non, je ne pense pas que c’est le cas.


Non, je ne pense pas que c’estça ait été le cas.

Opinion verbs in the negative form require the subjunctive mood

Il y a beaucoup de musulmans qui sont de fervents croyant dans le monde, alors si on les provoque quelqu’un pourra se mettre en colère.


Il y a beaucoup de musulmans qui sont de fervents croyants dans le monde, alors si on les provoque quelqu’un, certains pourraient se mettre en colère.

L’acte de Charlie Hebdo est un acte blasphématoire contre l’islam.


L’acte dCe que Charlie Hebdo esa fait était un acte blasphématoire contre l’islam.

Beaucoup de musulmans trouve que les rédacteurs des caricatures ont fait quelque chose d’horrible.


Beaucoup de musulmans trouvent que les rédacdessinateurs des caricatures ont fait quelque chose d’horrible.

En fait il y a eu une manifestation au Niger contre Charlie hebdo.


En fait, il y a eu une manifestation au Niger contre Charlie hHebdo.

Quand quelques choses est si important pour quelqu’un, on doit le respecter, on ne peut pas le de respecter malgré le fait que la liberté d’expression existe.


Quand quelques choses est si important pour quelqu’un, on doit le respecter, on ne peut pas le déviter de le respecter, malgré le fait que la liberté d’expression existe.

Donc, pour être capable de respecter les autres cultures il faut qu’on en sache plus sur elles.


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Je pense que le problème est le manque de connaissances sur ce sujet.


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Les Français devraient en apprendre plus en école selon moi, parce qu’alors peut-être que la tragédie n’aurait jamais eu lieu.


Les Français devraient en apprendre plus en à l'école selon moi, parce qu’alors peut-être que la tragédie n’aurait peut-être jamais eu lieu.

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