Kindred Spirit

Oct. 19, 2025

Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of Woman

In China, there's a marriage custom that if a man want to marry a woman, his family should give the woman's family an amount of money, which is called ''彩礼'' (betrothal gifts). Usually, it should be at least tens of thousands of yuan.

Some family count on their daughter's marriage to receive a big amount of money, so that they can save it for their son to get married. Sounds like selling their daughter for their son's sake to me. As a woman, I feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair for this.

Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money as betrothal gifts. Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there're also some women don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

In before, I don't think betrothal gifts are that much important to me. If two people love each other, then it's okay without betrothal gifts. Until one day, my mom told me that she had an argument with my paternal grandma. During the argument, my paternal grandmother said my mom is just a ''cheap wife''. Because back then when my mom marry to my dad, she only asked for small amount of money as betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesn't have very good economy. My heart was filled with many complicated feelings after hearing that.

If a woman ask for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men. If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or ask for less, she will be looked down on by her parents in law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''. They're glad she's cheap or free, yet despise her because she's cheap or free. What a malicious heart people have.

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Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of WomanA Woman’s Dilemma

Some family count on their daughter's marriage to receive a big amountlarge sum of money, so that they can save it for their son to get married.

“Sum” is another way to say “amount” that is more specifically used when talking about money, especially ‘large sums of money’.

As a woman, Ithis custom makes me feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair for thisit seems unfair.

Nowadays, many Chinese malesen complain that it's too expensive to marry a woman, and that they don't have enough money asfor betrothal gifts.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there' are also some women who don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

It is very unusual to make a contraction out of ‘there are’, even if it is pronounced similarly to ‘they’re’. Only ‘they are’ is commonly contracted like so.

In before, I don't used to think betrothal gifts are that muchweren’t all that important to me.

When we say what we thought in the past but no longer believe, we use the structure “I used to think (that) …”

If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutto not have betrothal gifts.

Because back then when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor her betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesn'idn’t have very good econa lot of incomye.

We use ‘married’ and ‘didn’t’ instead of ‘marry’ and ‘doesn’t’ to keep all of the verbs in the past since this is a past event.

My heart was filled with many complicated feelings after hearing that.

Very beautifully expressed! Here we could say ‘complicated feelings’ or we could also use ‘conflicting feelings’

If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, shemen will be criticized as her and call her materialistic by men.

It’s more natural to word it like this.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or if she asks for less, sher parents in law will be looked down on by her parents in law aand will think that she’s a ''free wife'' or a ''cheap wife''.

A lot of the times it sounds more natural to use more active sentences (the cat ate the mouse) instead of passive sentences (the mouse was eaten by the cat).
Of course, passive sentences are always welcome for formal writing if that’s what you’re going for. But if you want to write sentences that are more commonly used in everyday spoken English, active sentences are the way to go!

They're glad she's cheap or free, yet despise her because she's cheap or free.

Well said!

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Excellent writing!! This was very interesting to read

Kindred Spirit

Oct. 21, 2025

Thank you for the detailed and expended explanation! I learned a lot

Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of WomanA Woman's Dilemma

In China, there's a marriage custom that if a man wants to marry a woman, his family should give the woman's family an amount of money, which is called ''彩礼'' (betrothal gifts).

As a woman, Ithis feels extremely uncomfortable and unfair for thisto me.

You can say "I feel uncomfortable," but you can't say "I feel unfair." So if you wanted to keep the subject-verb word order, the second part would have to be "I feel that this is unfair."

Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money as betrothal gifts.

"Nowadays" is not wrong, but FYI, it's informal and usually used in spoken English, not written.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there're also some women don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

Similar to the previous sentence's feedback, "there're" is a contraction we sometimes use out loud, but I would expect to see it spelled out as "there are" in writing. This might vary regionally though; I'm American and I know that Irish / British English sometimes uses contractions that we don't, so I'm not sure.

In before, I don't used to think that betrothal gifts are that muchweren't very important to me.

"In before" and "that much important" aren't valid phrases. The rest of the sentence was otherwise fine, but I rephrased it to make the replacements make more sense.

If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutthey don't need betrothal gifts.

UntilThen one day, my mom told me that she had an argument with my paternal grandma.

Because back thenack when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor her betrothal gifts as, because she knew my dad's family doesidn't have very good economa lot of money.

If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or asks for less, she will be looked down on by her parents -in -law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''.

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Great post! You clearly explained the cultural context as well as your own feelings about it. I understand why you're conflicted. Very interesting topic; I'd love to learn more if you decide to write about it again.

Kindred Spirit

Oct. 21, 2025

Thank you! I'll try to write more interesting topics.
And could you tell me in written English, which word i should use to replace ''Nowadays''?

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alouette

Oct. 21, 2025

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Good question! I would suggest "These days" as a replacement.

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As a woman, I feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair forbout this.

Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money asfor betrothal gifts.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there'res also some women who don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

You can also say there are instead of there's, which is technically grammatically incorrect, but very standard and accepted in common english. We almost never use the contraction there're except in spoken english as it widely considered awkward.

InAs I said before, I don't think betrothal gifts are that much important to me.

i'm kinda confused by this...i think this makes more sense though.

If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutto not have betrothal gifts.

Because back then, when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor the betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesidn't have very good economa lot of money.

If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or asks for less, she will be looked down on by her parents in law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''.

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Amazing job! Also, super interesting topic! 干得漂亮

Kindred Spirit

Oct. 21, 2025

Thank you!

Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of Woman


Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of WomanA Woman's Dilemma

Betrothal Gifts - Dilemma of WomanA Woman’s Dilemma

In China, there's a marriage custom that if a man want to marry a woman, his family should give the woman's family an amount of money, which is called ''彩礼'' (betrothal gifts).


In China, there's a marriage custom that if a man wants to marry a woman, his family should give the woman's family an amount of money, which is called ''彩礼'' (betrothal gifts).

Usually, it should be at least tens of thousands of yuan.


Some family count on their daughter's marriage to receive a big amount of money, so that they can save it for their son to get married.


Some family count on their daughter's marriage to receive a big amountlarge sum of money, so that they can save it for their son to get married.

“Sum” is another way to say “amount” that is more specifically used when talking about money, especially ‘large sums of money’.

Sounds like selling their daughter for their son's sake to me.


As a woman, I feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair for this.


As a woman, I feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair forbout this.

As a woman, Ithis feels extremely uncomfortable and unfair for thisto me.

You can say "I feel uncomfortable," but you can't say "I feel unfair." So if you wanted to keep the subject-verb word order, the second part would have to be "I feel that this is unfair."

As a woman, Ithis custom makes me feel extremely uncomfortable and unfair for thisit seems unfair.

Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money as betrothal gifts.


Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money asfor betrothal gifts.

Nowadays, many Chinese males complain it's too expensive to marry a woman, and they don't have enough money as betrothal gifts.

"Nowadays" is not wrong, but FYI, it's informal and usually used in spoken English, not written.

Nowadays, many Chinese malesen complain that it's too expensive to marry a woman, and that they don't have enough money asfor betrothal gifts.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there're also some women don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.


Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there'res also some women who don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

You can also say there are instead of there's, which is technically grammatically incorrect, but very standard and accepted in common english. We almost never use the contraction there're except in spoken english as it widely considered awkward.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there're also some women don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

Similar to the previous sentence's feedback, "there're" is a contraction we sometimes use out loud, but I would expect to see it spelled out as "there are" in writing. This might vary regionally though; I'm American and I know that Irish / British English sometimes uses contractions that we don't, so I'm not sure.

Although giving and receiving betrothal gifts is still a common thing here, there' are also some women who don't ask for betrothal gifts or require less.

It is very unusual to make a contraction out of ‘there are’, even if it is pronounced similarly to ‘they’re’. Only ‘they are’ is commonly contracted like so.

If a woman ask for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men.


If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men.

If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, she will be criticized as materialistic by men.

If a woman asks for betrothal gifts, shemen will be criticized as her and call her materialistic by men.

It’s more natural to word it like this.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or ask for less, she will be looked down on by her parents in law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''.


If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or asks for less, she will be looked down on by her parents in law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or asks for less, she will be looked down on by her parents -in -law as a ''free wife'' or ''cheap wife''.

If she doesn't ask for betrothal gifts or if she asks for less, sher parents in law will be looked down on by her parents in law aand will think that she’s a ''free wife'' or a ''cheap wife''.

A lot of the times it sounds more natural to use more active sentences (the cat ate the mouse) instead of passive sentences (the mouse was eaten by the cat). Of course, passive sentences are always welcome for formal writing if that’s what you’re going for. But if you want to write sentences that are more commonly used in everyday spoken English, active sentences are the way to go!

They're glad she's cheap or free, yet despise her because she's cheap or free.


They're glad she's cheap or free, yet despise her because she's cheap or free.

Well said!

What a malicious heart people have.


In before, I don't think betrothal gifts are that much important to me.


InAs I said before, I don't think betrothal gifts are that much important to me.

i'm kinda confused by this...i think this makes more sense though.

In before, I don't used to think that betrothal gifts are that muchweren't very important to me.

"In before" and "that much important" aren't valid phrases. The rest of the sentence was otherwise fine, but I rephrased it to make the replacements make more sense.

In before, I don't used to think betrothal gifts are that muchweren’t all that important to me.

When we say what we thought in the past but no longer believe, we use the structure “I used to think (that) …”

If two people love each other, then it's okay without betrothal gifts.


If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutto not have betrothal gifts.

If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutthey don't need betrothal gifts.

If two people love each other, then it's okay withoutto not have betrothal gifts.

Until one day, my mom told me that she had an argument with my paternal grandma.


UntilThen one day, my mom told me that she had an argument with my paternal grandma.

During the argument, my paternal grandmother said my mom is just a ''cheap wife''.


Because back then when my mom marry to my dad, she only asked for small amount of money as betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesn't have very good economy.


Because back then, when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor the betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesidn't have very good economa lot of money.

Because back thenack when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor her betrothal gifts as, because she knew my dad's family doesidn't have very good economa lot of money.

Because back then when my mom marry toied my dad, she only asked for a small amount of money asfor her betrothal gifts as she knew my dad's family doesn'idn’t have very good econa lot of incomye.

We use ‘married’ and ‘didn’t’ instead of ‘marry’ and ‘doesn’t’ to keep all of the verbs in the past since this is a past event.

My heart was filled with many complicated feelings after hearing that.


My heart was filled with many complicated feelings after hearing that.

Very beautifully expressed! Here we could say ‘complicated feelings’ or we could also use ‘conflicting feelings’

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