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Jack

April 18, 2022

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A Discussion

"People's thoughts can be divided into different levels"

I have to say that I can't agree more with this saying.

As people mentioned Fang Zhouzi earlier and led a heated discussion, I want to say something about him.

I don't know much about him to be honest, but I did watch one of his videos before. I didn't finish watching it because I think I quickly got an impression of him.

I don't think he is a capable person, and even that he is not as normal as others.

I know his educational background, and sounds like he is really awesome, but I don't think so.

Do people who have high diplomas are always better than those who don't? No, it's definitely not.

I have to admit that oftentimes I judge people by my intuition-based on their words and deeds, and I think this method works most of the time. At least for me.

It's true that Fang has a very good educational background, but why do I think he is not a capable person?

In the early 1980s, when students graduated from middle schools, their first choices were going to secondary specialized schools because if students were qualified to go to a secondary specialized school, that means they had already gained the opportunity to work in the government.

The passing rate of being a secondary specialized school student was only 3-5 percent. If you couldn't be in the top three places in your class, you probably would never pass the exams.

If you were qualified to be a secondary specialized school student and did not go to that school, you could go to a provincial key high school, but if you couldn't pass the university entrance examination, you still had to go back to your village to be a farmer for your entire life.

After taking a few years of the examination for entering secondary specialized schools and all failed, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, but some of them finally had the chance to pass the university entrance examination.

Ironic?

Do you think people who failed to go to secondary specialized schools before and finally had the chance to go to universities are more capable than people who passed the exams for going to secondary specialized schools?

Yeah, I know, those university students have higher diplomas than students from secondary specialized schools.

To the same person, having a long educational history is most likely more capable than having short.

People who are three out of 100 are always better than ten out of 100.

Educational background is like a journey. Although some people are not very good at it, they keep going forward to the end, while others are very talented, but they leave for some reason half of the way.

So people who have a nice educational background don't necessarily mean they are more capable than people who don't.

Talented people can understand things at only a glance, while not talented people need to understand things many times.

That is what talent is.

Corrections

"People's thoughtopinions can be dividedput into different levelscategories."

Not really sure what you mean by "divided into different levels"? I took a guess.

I have to say that I cacouldn't agree more with this saying.

As people mentioned Fang Zhouzi earlier andFang Zhouzi was mentioned earlier, which led to a heated discussion, I want to say something about him.

To be honest, I don't know much about him to be honest, but I did watch one of his videos before.

I didn't finish watching it because I think I quickly got anmy impression of him.

I don't think he is a capable person, and even that he is notmaybe not even as normal as othersone.

I know that his educational background, and makes it sounds like he is really awesome, but I don't think sothat's true.

DoAre people who have higher education diplomas are always better than those who don't?

No, ithat's definitely not true.

Original grammar's fine, it just doesn't flow well with the previous sentence.

I have to admit that oftentimes, I judge people by my intuition- based on their words and deeds, andactions, but I think this method works most of the time.

In the early 1980s, when students graduated from middle schools, their firbest choices were going to secondary was to go to a specialized secondary schools, because if studentsthey were qualified to go to a secondary specialized secondary school, that means they had already gained the opportunity to work in the government.

The passing rate of being a secondary specialized school studentacceptance rate of students in specialized secondary schools was only 3-5 percent.

If you couldn't bplace in the top three places in your class, you probably would nevern't pass the exams.

If you were qualified to be a secondary specialized school student and did not go to that schoolattend a specialized secondary school but chose not to go, you could go to a provincial key high school instead, but if you couldn't pass the university entrance examination, you still had to go back to your village to be a farmer for your entirethe rest of your life.

After taking a few years of the examination for entering secondary specialized schools and all failednd failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, but some of them finallyothers had the chance to pass the university entrance examination instead.

Do you think the people who failed to go to secondaryet into a specialized secondary schools before and finallyut then had the chance to go to a universitiesy are more capable than the people who passed the exams for going to secondary specializedand went to specialized secondary schools?

Yeah, I know, those university students have a diploma with a higher diplomasegree than students from secondary specialized secondary schools.

To the same person, havingSomeone with a long educational history is mostre likely morto be capable than havingsomeone with a short one.

People who are three out of 100in the top 3% are always better than ten out ofose only in the top 100%.

I'm assuming the numbers are referring to percentages instead of points out of 100. My assumption could be wrong.

Although some people are not very good at ittalented, they keep going forward tountil the end, while others who are very talented, but they leave for some reason half of the way may give up halfway for various reasons.

So people who havehaving a nice educational background doesn't necessarily mean they area person is more capable than peoplthose who don't.

Talented people can understand things atwith only a glance, while not talented people may need to understand things many timesmany tries before understanding.

I may have misinterpreted what you wanted to say here.

Jack's avatar
Jack

April 19, 2022

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"People's thoughtopinions can be dividedput into different levelscategories."

人的思维是有层级的。The way that people think can be ranked in different layers of levels. Smart people will be at the high layer, while less smart people will be at the low layer.

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Jack

April 19, 2022

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After taking a few years of the examination for entering secondary specialized schools and all failednd failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, but some of them finallyothers had the chance to pass the university entrance examination instead.

After taking and failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, and after three years of studying, they won the university entrance examination.

This is what I really mean.

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Jack

April 19, 2022

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People who are three out of 100in the top 3% are always better than ten out ofose only in the top 100%.

You are right. What I want to express is that choosing 3 people from 100 people compared to choosing 10 people from 100 people. that the three people must be better than the 10 people.

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Jack

April 19, 2022

5

Thank you very much.

“People’s opinions can be put into different categories. “
I couldn’t agree more with this saying. Since Fang Zhouzi was mentioned earlier, which led to a heated discussion, I want to say something about him. To be honest, I don't know much about him, but I did watch one of his videos before. I didn't finish watching it because I quickly got my impression of him. I don't think he is a capable person, maybe not even a normal one. I know that his educational background makes it sound like he is really awesome, but I don't think that is true. Are people who have higher education diplomas always better than those who don't? No, that’s definitely not true. I have to admit that oftentimes, I judge people by intuition based on their words and actions, but I think this method works most of the time. At least for me. It's true that Fang has a very good educational background, but why do I think he is not a capable person? In the early 1980s, when students graduated from middle schools, their best choice was to go to a specialized secondary school because if they were qualified to go to a specialized secondary school, that means they had already gained the opportunity to work in the government. The acceptance rate of students in specialized secondary schools was only 3-5 percent. If you couldn't place in the top three in your class, you probably wouldn’t pass the exams. If you were qualified to attend a specialized secondary school but choose not to go, you could go to a provincial key high school instead, but if you couldn't pass the university entrance examination, you still had to go back to your village to be a farmer for the rest of your life. After taking and failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, and some of them finally had the chance to pass the university entrance examination. Ironic? Do you think the people who failed to get into a specialized secondary school but then had the chance to go to a university are more capable than the people who passed the exams and went to specialized secondary schools? Yeah, I know, those university students have a diploma with a higher degree than students from specialized secondary schools.
Someone with a long educational history is more likely to be capable than someone with a short one. People who are in the top 3% are always better than those only in the top 10%. Educational background is like a journey. Although some people are not very talented, they keep going forward until the end, while others who are very talented may give up halfway for various reasons. So having a nice educational background doesn’t necessarily mean a person is more capable than those who don't. Talented people can understand things with only a glance, while not talented people may need many tries before understanding. That is what talent is.

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knight

April 19, 2022

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人的思维是有层级的。The way that people think can be ranked in different layers of levels. Smart people will be at the high layer, while less smart people will be at the low layer.

I think I understand what you're trying to say, but I'm not sure if there is an exact English equivalent. Maybe something like, "People's way of thinking have varying levels of maturity," but maybe someone else can give a better alternative.

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knight

April 19, 2022

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After taking and failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, and after three years of studying, they won the university entrance examination. This is what I really mean.

I'm assuming that "won the university entrance examination" means passing the exams. You can't "win" an exam, so you should use a different word even if my assumption is wrong.

Just as a side note, "exam" is the term most people use when talking about academic/school-related tests. While "examination" can also mean the same, it's more commonly used to refer to things like a medical check-up or a close analysis of a subject, derived from "to examine."

I'd personally reword the sentence as:

The students that took and failed the specialized secondary schools' entrance exams for consecutive years had to go to an ordinary high school, and after three years of studying there, some were able to pass the [reinstated] national university entrance exam.

"Reinstated" is in brackets because I'm not positive if it should be there. Going by the previous sentences, it seems like you might be talking about when 高考 was reinstated, but my knowledge about Chinese history is very limited, so just ignore it if I'm wrong.

Jack's avatar
Jack

April 20, 2022

5

Thank you very much.

The Chinese university entrance exam was reinstated in the year 1977 after ten years stopped.
In the early 1980's, the National College Entrance Examination and the High School Entrance Examination both existed. But students who graduated from middle school all wanted to go to a specialized secondary school instead of going to an ordinary high school, because if students were good enough for going to a specialized secondary school, that meant they already got the opportunity to work in the government after three years of studying there, but the acceptance rate for that was very low, just 3-5%. The majority of students couldn't pass the exam.
So, students who didn't have good grades had to go to an ordinary high school, but after three years of studying in a high school, some of them had the chance to pass the National College Entrance Examination. That meant they also got the opportunity to work in the government after three years of learning in universities.

A Discussion


"People's thoughts can be divided into different levels"


"People's thoughtopinions can be dividedput into different levelscategories."

Not really sure what you mean by "divided into different levels"? I took a guess.

I have to say that I can't agree more with this saying.


I have to say that I cacouldn't agree more with this saying.

As people mentioned Fang Zhouzi earlier and led a heated discussion, I want to say something about him.


As people mentioned Fang Zhouzi earlier andFang Zhouzi was mentioned earlier, which led to a heated discussion, I want to say something about him.

I don't know much about him to be honest, but I did watch one of his videos before.


To be honest, I don't know much about him to be honest, but I did watch one of his videos before.

I didn't finish watching it because I think I quickly got an impression of him.


I didn't finish watching it because I think I quickly got anmy impression of him.

I don't think he is a capable person, and even that he is not as normal as others.


I don't think he is a capable person, and even that he is notmaybe not even as normal as othersone.

I know his educational background, and sounds like he is really awesome, but I don't think so.


I know that his educational background, and makes it sounds like he is really awesome, but I don't think sothat's true.

Do people who have high diplomas are always better than those who don't?


DoAre people who have higher education diplomas are always better than those who don't?

No, it's definitely not.


No, ithat's definitely not true.

Original grammar's fine, it just doesn't flow well with the previous sentence.

I have to admit that oftentimes I judge people by my intuition-based on their words and deeds, and I think this method works most of the time.


I have to admit that oftentimes, I judge people by my intuition- based on their words and deeds, andactions, but I think this method works most of the time.

At least for me.


It's true that Fang has a very good educational background, but why do I think he is not a capable person?


In the early 1980s, when students graduated from middle schools, their first choices were going to secondary specialized schools because if students were qualified to go to a secondary specialized school, that means they had already gained the opportunity to work in the government.


In the early 1980s, when students graduated from middle schools, their firbest choices were going to secondary was to go to a specialized secondary schools, because if studentsthey were qualified to go to a secondary specialized secondary school, that means they had already gained the opportunity to work in the government.

The passing rate of being a secondary specialized school student was only 3-5 percent.


The passing rate of being a secondary specialized school studentacceptance rate of students in specialized secondary schools was only 3-5 percent.

If you couldn't be in the top three places in your class, you probably would never pass the exams.


If you couldn't bplace in the top three places in your class, you probably would nevern't pass the exams.

If you were qualified to be a secondary specialized school student and did not go to that school, you could go to a provincial key high school, but if you couldn't pass the university entrance examination, you still had to go back to your village to be a farmer for your entire life.


If you were qualified to be a secondary specialized school student and did not go to that schoolattend a specialized secondary school but chose not to go, you could go to a provincial key high school instead, but if you couldn't pass the university entrance examination, you still had to go back to your village to be a farmer for your entirethe rest of your life.

After taking a few years of the examination for entering secondary specialized schools and all failed, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, but some of them finally had the chance to pass the university entrance examination.


After taking a few years of the examination for entering secondary specialized schools and all failednd failing the entrance exams for specialized secondary schools for a few years, some students had to go to an ordinary high school, but some of them finallyothers had the chance to pass the university entrance examination instead.

Ironic?


Do you think people who failed to go to secondary specialized schools before and finally had the chance to go to universities are more capable than people who passed the exams for going to secondary specialized schools?


Do you think the people who failed to go to secondaryet into a specialized secondary schools before and finallyut then had the chance to go to a universitiesy are more capable than the people who passed the exams for going to secondary specializedand went to specialized secondary schools?

Yeah, I know, those university students have higher diplomas than students from secondary specialized schools.


Yeah, I know, those university students have a diploma with a higher diplomasegree than students from secondary specialized secondary schools.

To the same person, having a long educational history is most likely more capable than having short.


To the same person, havingSomeone with a long educational history is mostre likely morto be capable than havingsomeone with a short one.

People who are three out of 100 are always better than ten out of 100.


People who are three out of 100in the top 3% are always better than ten out ofose only in the top 100%.

I'm assuming the numbers are referring to percentages instead of points out of 100. My assumption could be wrong.

Educational background is like a journey.


Although some people are not very good at it, they keep going forward to the end, while others are very talented, but they leave for some reason half of the way.


Although some people are not very good at ittalented, they keep going forward tountil the end, while others who are very talented, but they leave for some reason half of the way may give up halfway for various reasons.

So people who have a nice educational background don't necessarily mean they are more capable than people who don't.


So people who havehaving a nice educational background doesn't necessarily mean they area person is more capable than peoplthose who don't.

Talented people can understand things at only a glance, while not talented people need to understand things many times.


Talented people can understand things atwith only a glance, while not talented people may need to understand things many timesmany tries before understanding.

I may have misinterpreted what you wanted to say here.

That is what talent is.


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