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ponta 222 · April 10

Target Language - English

Watching, riding, or taking a photograph of a train is a popular hobby in Japan. Train geeks who take a picture of trains are called "Toritetsu" in Japanese, and they are infamous for their behavior. For example, some of them cut down cherry blossoms without permission because the trees were obstacles to the picture. Other than that, they caused various problems, and they're considered troublesome. (I know annoying people are a part of them.)


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secretpostman 0 April 11, 2021
Train Geeks
Watching, riding, or taking a photograph of a train is a popular hobby in Japan.

Watching, riding, or taking a photographs of a trains is a popular hobby in Japan.

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Plural is better here because there isn't one particular train they're interested in - it's simply trains in general.
Train geeks who take a picture of trains are called "Toritetsu" in Japanese, and they are infamous for their behavior.

Train geeks who take a pictures of trains are called "Toritetsu" in Japanese, and they are infamous for their behavior.

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For example, some of them cut down cherry blossoms without permission because the trees were obstacles to the picture.

For example, some of them cut down cherry blossoms without permission because the trees were obstacles to thea picture.

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Or "their picture" or "the picture they wanted". "the picture" alone implies there's a particular picture you mean and that you expect us to understand which one it is, as if you'd mentioned it earlier.
Other than that, they caused various problems, and they're considered troublesome.

Other than that, they've caused various problems, and they're considered troublesome.

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It feels a little disconnected to use simple past "they caused" with simple present "they are considered". You can do it, it's not wrong, but it's not a very natural way to link the ideas together. It suggests they might not be as related as they could be.

"My car broke down, so I am walking to the shop." - Maybe it broke down on the way to the shop, and I'm walking the rest of the way. Maybe it broke down yesterday, maybe it broke down a week ago and I haven't fixed it yet. Maybe it broke down a week ago and I got it fixed, but I'm afraid it'll break down again.

"My car has broken down, so I am walking to the shop." - emphasises that the breakdown has present consequences, that I want to *link* the breakdown and me walking to the shop. The event, the car breaking down, occurred in the (probably recent) past, but the "completion" of that event is something that is still in the present right now, it's still broken down, and that's the reason I'm walking.

So here present perfect "they have caused" is better because it links the problems to the present. The problems haven't been fixed yet, or people are still angry about them, or they have caused problems recently enough that the problems and the present are in the same "frame of reference".
(I know annoying people are a part of them.)

(I know annoying people are a part of them.)

Ambiguous. You know some of them are people who are annoying?

Overall feedback & comment:

Sometimes we call them "anoraks" in the UK, after the coats they often wear. And I believe in America the derogatory term is "foamers" because trains make them foam at the mouth! People can be very strange.
Comment added on 04/11/2021

Correction 2 / 2
profitendieu 0 April 11, 2021
Train Geeks
Watching, riding, or taking a photograph of a train is a popular hobby in Japan.

Watching, riding, or taking a photographs of a trains is a popular hobby in Japan.

Train geeks who take a picture of trains are called "Toritetsu" in Japanese, and they are infamous for their behavior.

Train geeks who take a pictures of trains are called "Ttoritetsu" in Japanese, and they are infamous for their behavior.

For example, some of them cut down cherry blossoms without permission because the trees were obstacles to the picture.

For example, some of them cut down cherry blossoms without permission because the trees weare obstacles toin the way of their pictures.

We are describing a general ongoing situation, so the present tense is better.
Other than that, they caused various problems, and they're considered troublesome.

Other than that, they caused various problems, and they're considered troublesome.

(I know annoying people are a part of them.)

(I know there are annoying people are a part of themwho are toritetsu.)

This sounds more natural to me.